Friday, April 01, 2005

we cannot be the deciders of our own morals

202 is done! muahahah! Remember to turn up for the screening... I'm very sad I couldn't be the main voice talent... some scheduling problem...

But well done. My namesake Dr Foo is either going to buy the whole thing or trash the whole thing.

Yes. Quite unlike most things in life. Either the absolute truth, or otherwise its a complete lie.

I wanted to write an article on why the sodomy law should be kept in place, and after several hours, I found that there actually is no secular reason for it at all! And btw my brother has decided to study law. Fantastic. Now I won't have to fear anymore insurance claims.

The law against sodomy is from several places in the Bible, but got its name from the city of Sodom where there were a lot of men practising such acts and God passed judgement upon it and destroyed the city. (Genesis 19)

There are also several mentions of men lying with men as with womankind as being punishable by death and the act being an abomination unto the LORD, a strong word as its not often used. And sodomy is typically mentioned amongst other sins like beastiality. All these are found in the Law books of the Old Testament. Paul also mentions against it in the New Testament as well.

So how did it end up in Singapore? As you could have guessed, it was made law in the 1500s in England and Singapore inherited it as a colony.

Singapore is a secular state. No doubt about that. And the excuses that the government gives:

1) gays spread HIV
2) it doesn't result in procreation
3) the majority of the population is still conservative

are weak reasons for why it should be kept.

Probably reason number 3 is the most acceptable because law makers are representatives of the people. So you see, the secular state does work in some sense, but only as long as the people are well-grounded in their moral guidance.

But there's something else here. Most Singaporeans aren't Christians. So why do they keep the sodomy law? They didn't. We just happened to get it from the British. Thus, they aren't going to be bothered when gay sympathizers campaign to bring it down. And the activists know this. That's why they're working hard. Some even come from churches. Churches that interpret the Bible for themselves and cast out or twist passages they don't like. I thought it a damnable heresy that it was a group calling itself christian that tried to organize a gay concert which was rejected. Well. What to do with such heretics?

To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. - 1 Cor 5:5

That's right. Church discipline. Cast them out till they repent. In other words ex-communication. But wait, these guys are in a church of their own altogether, and from top to bottom agree that being gay is not a sin. Reform based on the Bible.

That is one of the consequences of a secular public society.

But back to sodomy. Well, it's a law that came from the Bible. If people don't want to believe in it anymore, then take it out from the secular body of law. For the faithful will always have the law written in their hearts.

But I will be sad for people who will lose even this archaic form of restraint.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, - 2 Tim 3:1-3

And that was a warning about people close to the end of the world.

Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. - 2 Tim 3:5-7

Another warning of the false teachers.



Anonymous said...

hmm jerry,

Perhaps at times, things aren't that deep as u think it to be. You really are affected by people around you man... haha

With regards to the sodomy issue, a simplier-modified explaination as to why it is better to have it around would be for the well being of the society.
Why so? Because given that the sodomy law be abolished..... in the way long run, this country might be a become a escapade for gays all around asia, given that the countries surrounding us are of muslim belief. And thus, with all the local/foreign gays around... what kind of image will our society potray? Given that majority are still straight, how will they feel? I presume somehow or rather, we will more or less be psychologically affected, thus linking to a series of other consequences...

Then again perhaps we might actually get used to such behaviour in the long run... who knows? But as for now, i don't think we are ready to accept such an open behaviour, and being a small nation, perhaps this law has to stand to prevent even the smallest stress on society, which could result in snowballing consequences.....

(Omg!! my engligh sucks!!)

---- oL' Vanz

acuransx said...

geez vanz... nice to see u having some thoughts on this issue... as opposed to ppl who don't care...

well... at 1st u talk about concern for image... so if its trendy and a sign of a 'developed society' that gays are accepted... then we should allow them lah?

As for rule of majority, well, there was a time when majority of Germans that Jews should be utterly destroyed... how do we know that Anti-Semitic laws were evil then?

As for psychological and snowballing causality... yea human behaviour is very hard explain with causes and reasons as its not as clear as the laws of physics... so..

your viewpoints are very culturally relative.

And in the end, ppl's culture do change. Which is why ppl want to abolish it now. Because our culture is changing. And in due time a majority will think its alrite, and it'll be abolished.

Anonymous said...

Nice nice... Yes.. that was what i had in mind...
As it seems, there will be a time when such moral laws will be abloished in lieu with the changing cultural acceptance of the general public...

Ans since this's the case... why try to hasten something which will eventually occur? Such actions will most likely not cause any changes to the law as the acceptance level of the public cannot change so quickily. I should think that in the far future, perhaps sodomy will be taken to be a normal action.. but in the meantime, any attempts at hastening the removal of such laws will only cause the public to be more aware of this issue, and given our way of thinking now... perhaps it will result in a stronger objection to this, and as a result... this may prolong the change in acceptance of sodomy, of which might take place sooner than you think....

As for why laws are in place, remember you said that laws were in place of order to occur and that it has nothing to do with morals? Perhaps it can be agreed that the fundamental basis of Law, however to attain order, i should think that there are many factors leading to it, of which the actions of citizens do play a huge part... and given our small population, i should think that we cannot afford such glitches to occur....

Then again i might be wrong... =)